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Gender, race and other stuff - I'm fairly confused.

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Jan. 23rd, 2010 | 05:03 pm

Gender and race are always hot topics in fandom, lately it seems to have exploded in a shower of rage inducing glitter (I have no idea where I’m going with this metaphor). It has been interesting reading the many (and I mean many) posts about culture appropriation, misogyny, willful blindness to women, sexual orientation and the age old question of why/should women be writing about homosexual men. I am, to be frank, feeling like my head is about to explode. This is my own entire fault, 20 odd posts of the stated topics has fried a major portion of my brain. But nonetheless I have come to some conclusions.

Conclusion #1 - There are many nutcases in fandom. Their logic is not Earth logic. Hell, their logic is so hilarious that it makes me wonder how they are still breathing.

But the other conclusion, the much better one is that there is a general consensus by the saner portion of fandom that yes, misogyny is present and often ugly, that yes, race is a touchy subject and often result in much fail, and the subject of women writing straight men who just happens to have the hot for one another is causing some problems with the gay community. In order to show you what I mean I shall cite some personal examples that I think are bleeding obvious.

RACE - the Psych fandom produces a pretty amazing amount of fics for such a small fandom. In my initial foray into the Psych fandom I was expecting to find an abundance of Gus/Spencer slash fics, because OMFG! They are so married and obviously ‘experimented’ muchly during their college years. Colour me (pun not intended - HA HA) when I discovered the small fandom being dominated by Spencer and Lassie fics (I had to wiki to figure out who Lassie was) I was very confused. Why Spence and this bumbling idiot of a character? Wouldn’t Spence and his heterosexual life partner be the better choice? It wasn’t until I had a conversation with a friend when the light bulb dawned. Gus is BLACK; he is as black as I am YELLOW! Shawn obviously needed to MATCH with Lassie. This may be wrong of course, but from where I’m standing it seems to me that the majority of Psych fandom prefers to keep their pairing white. If I’m wrong please explain to me in small words.

GENDER – The SPN fandom. Jess, Cass, Bela, Jo, Anna and others. Also, Castiel is an actual FULL cast member now. The END.

Women writing straight men who just happens to have the hot for one another and no one else – um, I don’t actually agree with this one. I think 10 years back it definitely was the case, but from the recent fandoms I have been involved in, the authors seem to make an effort to have the characters discover they are gay, or at the very least bi. It could be the only thing the fandoms I’m reading from have not failed on me.

In conclusion – I have no idea why I even wrote this post except that I really needed to write something after consuming so MANY posts about gender, race and appropriation fail.

Gods, friendlist, please don’t disown me.

ETA: Why does the Doctor Who fandom hate Rose, but thinks Martha walks on water? EXPLAIN, PLEASE! (I personally think both of them are awesome for completely different reasons).

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Sabina

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from: petronia
date: Jan. 23rd, 2010 06:09 am (UTC)
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Doctor Who fandom AS A WHOLE does not hate Rose, not if you go by the raw numbers of fics linked on who_daily or whatev. I suspect there is a large wankfire-scarred divide between the Doctor/Rose shoujo OTP!omg!! shippers and... everyone else. XD;;;

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witty, somehow

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from: naanima
date: Jan. 24th, 2010 12:52 am (UTC)
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large wankfire-scarred divide.

The phrasing makes me stupidly happy. I shall be using this from now on.

That actually makes a lots of sense. The OTP aspect of it probably made many haters, though my love for Rose is kind of ridic. I just adore the series and every single character, so it is a tad difficult to understand the hate. We should all be Jack and just have sex with everything.

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Liz

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from: lizbyrd
date: Jan. 23rd, 2010 01:04 pm (UTC)
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I think there was a Shawn/Gus Christmas exchange recently?

The Shawn/Lassie thing surprised me, too, when I started reading the fic. To be fair, Shawn treats Gus horribly (but then, Lassiter is a total jerk to Shawn!), however I agree that there probably is some kind of subconscious go-with-the-familiar thing going on. (Rather than conscious racism, I mean.)

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from: naanima
date: Jan. 24th, 2010 12:54 am (UTC)
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Yay for the under-appreciated!

The subconscious makes me very uncomfortable, especially when I was talking to a friend of mine, who pointed it out to me that if Gus was white the amount of slash fics for the couple would be ridic. Like how if you think about Shawn and Gus is like Holmes and Watson.

I was very conscious of the whole thing after that conversation.

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from: abrandnewboom
date: Jan. 23rd, 2010 04:10 pm (UTC)
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SO WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON YAOI? </ MEME>

i'm not in psych fandom so i'm like what. i didn't even know there were other guys beyond the irritating fake psychic and his eye rolling black guy bff.

also IDK WHY PPL HATE ROSE. I am ridic in love with her, and i think it's weird that people hate her so much when i love EVERYONE in Doctor Who or Torchwood at all, except for 10. i don't like him.

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witty, somehow

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from: naanima
date: Jan. 24th, 2010 12:56 am (UTC)
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OMFG! I LOVES YAOI! LIKE! Real Life Media use to freak me the hell out because ANIME & MANGA characters are so MUCH PRETTIER! And my OTPs of OTPs is still Subaru&Seishirou. Hell, CLAMP pretty much made my High School/early University days. And BL manga is AWESOME!

I LOVES EVERYONE! I LOVES 10 TOO! I'm all for a GIANT ORGY of AWESOMENESS!

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from: abrandnewboom
date: Jan. 24th, 2010 02:28 am (UTC)
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XDDDDD oh you

ORGY? ORGY!11

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witty, somehow

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from: naanima
date: Jan. 24th, 2010 03:57 am (UTC)
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^_________^V

The good old says of CLAMP; when I was still young and innocent.


ORGY!!!

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