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Johnny Weir - HAHAHAHAHA

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Feb. 28th, 2010 | 06:00 pm



Dude - this is so true. Weir works hard, hell, all of the top figure skaters works off their ass to get where they are. The media - let's focus on the gay.

*SIGHS*.

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Vel'ithya Tevriel

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from: velithya
date: Feb. 28th, 2010 11:59 am (UTC)
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That was awesome (and sad ;_;), thank you for showing it to me. I was linked to Johnny Weir's Poker Face exhibition skate two days ago and I thought it was totally hot and awesome but youtube is LETTING ME DOWN and I know you've been watching the figure skating at the Olympics... do you have any pertinent videos to share with me? *wibbles* HELP ME OUT HERE

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witty, somehow

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from: naanima
date: Feb. 28th, 2010 12:15 pm (UTC)
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I love Weir - I think he is an excellent skater. The media focus on his personality, but Johnny Weir is actually a traditionalist when it comes to figure skating. I think he is fabulous but my heart belongs to Daisuke Takahashi. I have embedded 2 of his performances that I think are stand outs and shows you why I'm IN LOVE with his performances. However, scribblinlenore have a pretty good post with awesome goods.
http://scribblinlenore.livejournal.com/509875.html#cutid1

Daisuke Takahashi - 2007 Worlds Championships FS (ESPN)



This for me is like the major highlight of his competition so far. It is just the SHEER energy and emotion involved in this program breaks me every time. I GET TEARY, OK!

Daisuke Takahashi 2008 4CC SP Swan Lake Hip Hop



This my FAVOURITE program of his, hands down!

Also, mosca is the fount of all figure skating knowledge.

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Vel'ithya Tevriel

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from: velithya
date: Feb. 28th, 2010 12:37 pm (UTC)
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THANK YOU FOR LINKS :3

I must confess even after watching your two Takahashi videos Johnny Weir is still my favourite though <.<

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Sabina

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from: petronia
date: Feb. 28th, 2010 02:16 pm (UTC)
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You know, the thing about Johnny Weir isn't that he's gay, precisely. It's that straight guys want to do him, and the social psyche of the current-day West isn't equipped to cope with this (or, for that matter, admit it). Hence the collective adoption of junior-high methodology.

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witty, somehow

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from: naanima
date: Feb. 28th, 2010 02:40 pm (UTC)
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It's that straight guys want to do him - OK, this is awesome. And while I agree with this on a instinctive level I'm unsure of how this can be proven statistically. In other words, how did you come to this awesome conclusion? And, how do I to subscribe to your newsletter?

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Hissori

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from: _hissori
date: Mar. 3rd, 2010 04:10 am (UTC)
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Hi there! I don't know if you remember me, but I believe we used to be LJ friends several years back. I think our interests diverged somewhere down the line and we stopped following each other, but I recently landed on your journal again through searching for LJ posts on skating/the Olympics, and I just had to leave a comment to say that I very much approve of your taste in skating. :) I like Johnny a lot, and I absolutely love Daisuke (am such an uberfan it's kind of sad). I noticed he's gotten a lot of new fans on LJ thanks to the Olympics, but it's always nice to see someone who liked him from before too!

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witty, somehow

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from: naanima
date: Mar. 3rd, 2010 05:44 am (UTC)
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YES! It was during my anime/manga fandom days, not saying that I don't watch/read anime/manga nowadays just that my new obsessive fandoms are all RL ones.

I -LOVE- Daisuke, and kind of wish now that he didn't do the quad during the Olympics because there was a huge chance that he could have won Gold. Oh well.

I ADORE Johnny; I love how he is so genuine, that despite his comments and his persona, he is actually very traditional when it comes to his own skating. I only discovered Johnny 2 years back, it was during his performance South Korea. The man is awesome.

But DAISUKE! Oh, Daisuke, how I LOVE him!!!

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Hissori

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from: _hissori
date: Mar. 3rd, 2010 07:34 am (UTC)
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I haven't been part of anime/manga fandom for years -- I still read stuff from Shounen Jump occasionally, but I don't follow fandom activity at all. Skating has been my main fandom for the past few years, especially this season with the Olympics!

I wish so badly that Daisuke had won the gold -- if he had, everyone (well, most skating fans anyway) would be happy, and we wouldn't be having this stupid second Cold War and quad debate going on. I hate how it's like you either have the quad and suck at everything else, or you don't have the quad and are good at everything else (which doesn't apply to Evan Lysacek anyway, no matter what the US media says!). If Daisuke had just done Evan's jump layout and skated cleanly he might have won, but he said that his ideal performance has to include a quad, and trying to fulfill that was more important to him than the result. So he said he doesn't have any regrets about trying the quad. I really respect that attitude of his, the pursuit of the ideal rather than just the medal (in spite of how strategic skating is today), which is one of the reasons why I love him so much.

Johnny is amazing! He's probably the wittiest, most intelligent skater out there today. It's thanks to him that I rediscovered by love for skating four years ago, with his program to The Swan. I've been disappointed with the way his skating has developed since then and pretty much gave up on him, but he completely blew me away with his performances at these Olympics. If he continues competing after this season, I hope he can keep skating with that level of commitment. If he decides to call it quits though, I hope he publishes his tell-all book soon, because I would buy it in a heartbeat.

(Sorry for the long-winded comment -- it's just nice to be able to talk about skating with someone on LJ who knows more about it than just what happened over the past two weeks!)

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witty, somehow

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from: naanima
date: Mar. 3rd, 2010 10:39 pm (UTC)
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I read and watch, but not an active member anymore. Oh, well. Western Media fandom and sport RPS fandoms have pretty much ate my brain.

Me too! I REALLY wanted Daisuke to win gold. Oh, gods. The quad. I’m going to keep on repeating it till I’m blue in the face. I think figure skaters should push for a quad, it doesn’t mean incorporate it into EVERY single performance, but I think, at the level of the Olympics, an athlete should push themselves for the best. This is not saying that the artistry should not be considered, I just think that it shouldn’t be a debated as of Y/N to the quad but perhaps a rethinking of the scoring format. Like, the triple DESERVES way more point that it gets. I LOVE Daisuke, and I admire the way he set out to do the quad, I think Evan deserved the win purely on a technical level, but I will state that I found him incredibly boring. I LOVE Daisuke, and I’m so proud of him for pushing for a quad because it is his ideal performance.

Johnny is amazing! He's probably the wittiest, most intelligent skater out there today. It's thanks to him that I rediscovered by love for skating four years ago, with his program to The Swan. I've been disappointed with the way his skating has developed since then and pretty much gave up on him, but he completely blew me away with his performances at these Olympics. If he continues competing after this season, I hope he can keep skating with that level of commitment. If he decides to call it quits though, I hope he publishes his tell-all book soon, because I would buy it in a heartbeat.

Adore Johnny to BITS!!!! Oh yeah, about 4 years ago was when took a huge dip in his skating. It is interesting to me, that all of the skaters have an ideal of what they consider to be the perfect ‘figure skater’, and it cracks me up to no ends, that it is Johnny Weir who is the most traditionalists out of them when it comes to figure skating. He was amazing at the Olympics, and I want to see more of him on the ice!

(It is OK, I ADORE skating, and it is something I don’t usually talk about till the Olympics, because it is the only time when I have an opportunity to watch the performances live. Everything else I have to go online and hunt down. So, it is always nice to talk to somebody that knows more than OMFG! JONHHY! When it comes to the sports! ^_^)

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Hissori

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from: _hissori
date: Mar. 4th, 2010 06:03 am (UTC)
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I definitely don't think men's skating should be all about the quad, but it is a sport, and I think skaters need to strive to be the best they can athletically. Unfortunately, the current scoring system does undervalue quads (and triple axels) too much. For one, I can't understand why the negative GOE on quads and triple axels is actually multiplied by a factor of 1.6 -- so a fall on a quad isn't -3, it's -4.8, but the positive side is still just +1, +2, +3! I mean, WTF? No wonder no one wants to do the quad now, especially if you underrotate and fall and get 0 points for it (like Daisuke did). I do think Evan's win was justified based on the current judging system (though I feel like he was overscored), but his program was definitely uninspiring, and is a step back compared to Olympic gold medal performances of the past. Also, I hate how a few years ago he was all like "We need to make skating more athletic and masculine/real men do the quad", but now that he can't do it anymore he makes up an excuse about being afraid to injure his foot. If he thought it wasn't worth the risk, he should've just said so.

Anyway, I REALLY hope Daisuke can land the quad in Torino and win Worlds, though it'll probably be difficult. If he can though, that should put a stop to the quad debate!

For all his flamboyance off the ice, Johnny definitely is one of the most reserved skaters on ice (except for in his Lady Gaga exhibition and his SP this season). Actually, I feel like for all his talk of being an "artiste", oftentimes his competitive programs are not that great artistically (at least not in the past few years, his programs from 2004-2006 were amazing). Sometimes his talk about the new judging system limiting creativity is a bit annoying, because there HAVE wonderfully artistic, unique programs under this season! Sigh, Johnny is amazing but just so frustrating sometimes. He has so much talent that just wasn't harnessed in the right way! But his performances in Vancouver were definitely a step in the right direction, so I hope he can keep it up if he continues.

I feel your pain about not being able to watch skating live -- coverage in the US has decreased drastically in the past few years, and I couldn't even watch the Olympics live on TV because NBC tape-delayed it on the West Coast! Thank god for live internet streams, I don't know what I'd do without them!

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