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Aug. 1st, 2010 | 10:44 pm

The Deep Freeze: Christopher Nolan's woman problem.

The above article says everything I think in regards to Chris Nolan films, but can't verbalise or texualise in a coherent and unbiased manner. Hell, it states why I have seen every Christopher Nolan film, even if I have so much issues with them. The only reason I went to see Inception was because of the general positive reaction to the film, and honestly speaking, I liked the film for the pretty and the team dynamic, not its amazing meta. Because seriously, I have seen/read better meta presented in a much better way. Inception works for me because it is a pretty damn good heist film with a team of competent individuals, and competence in teams makes me happy.

Anyways, one little static kind of made me wince quite a bit:

+ Of the 6 women who are wives in Chris Nolan movies, only Barbara Gordon survives her movie. Of the other 5, 4 commit suicide.


And.

+ Of the 7 women who die, 6 are inarguably cases of fridging. Remember, "fridging" means killing a woman off solely to give the main male hero a reason to angst.


Someone's issues are showing.

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Elizabeth McCoy

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from: archangelbeth
date: Aug. 1st, 2010 11:26 am (UTC)
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I wonder if those are issues or -- especially in the case of the "fridging" -- lack of imagination? It's a cheap shot, to get the desired result out of the character.

(I did a similar cheap shot in an In Nomine game once. I didn't want the players spending forever analyzing the hideout of the Bad Guy (which I didn't have a map for, even in my head!), so I had the Bad Guy send for a child for Immoral Purposes. It worked as intended! The PCs had been spying on the Bad Guy, knew when he sent down the order, and charged in to the rescue without a good plan, so I didn't have to come up with tactical data for them. WHEW!)

It's still a bad habit to be in, whether it's issues or laziness, of course. And it's laziness based on a view of the world that is intensely annoying, even if it's "just" laziness. Society's issues are still issues...

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witty, somehow

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from: naanima
date: Aug. 3rd, 2010 10:12 am (UTC)
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See, if he had only done this for one or two films I could chalk it up as laziness in story telling. But in every single one of his films?

(But you don't use the same gimmick in EVERY one of your stories, right?)

Society's issues are still issues...

Exactly!

I wouldn't judge Nolan so harshly if he didn't use the deaths of a woman as the main driver/motivator for his protagonist. Or, you know, make them a whore.

*SIGHS*.

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Elizabeth McCoy

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from: archangelbeth
date: Aug. 3rd, 2010 01:56 pm (UTC)
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(But you don't use the same gimmick in EVERY one of your stories, right?)

*shiftyeyes* Maaaaaaaaybe...

Though I'd try not to, if I realized I was. And "okay, someone dies" is a pretty obvious gimmick...

(And I wouldn't necessarily have used the GMing trick if I'd had more of the hide-out planned! A move of desperation!)

So, from an author point of view, lazy and unimaginative and falling back on society's issues without trying to make something fresh and new. From a feminist (for some value of that label, anyway) point of view, issues. I'd say that either way, he needs a better gimmick, and not a formula. O:p

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Viscount Troll

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from: abrandnewboom
date: Aug. 3rd, 2010 09:41 am (UTC)
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hi ilu i wanna quote your entire post in my lj to back up my meh reaction to inception that ppl are hassling me about haha

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witty, somehow

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from: naanima
date: Aug. 3rd, 2010 10:14 am (UTC)
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HAHAHA.

Go ahead. I don't think I have the social capital to make my statement all that influential, but sometime it is a numbers game.

See, Matrix, to me, is the better film. Though I like Inception more in the sense it had a team of awesomeness. However, I wish there had been more characterisation in Inception.

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